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		<title>By: dave [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that you left this out:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
of legislation:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(a) &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;n turn...women will have little rights in terms of things like divorce or other related things.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Most of the things in the current constitution are rights that were present under Saddam.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('112','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('112','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;','I noticed that you left this out:&#60;\/span&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nof legislation:&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n(a) &#60;em&#62;&#60;strong&#62;No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.&#60;\/strong&#62;&#60;\/em&#62;n turn...women will have little rights in terms of things like divorce or other related things.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nMost of the things in the current constitution are rights that were present under Saddam.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;\/blockquote&#62;\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that you left this out:<br />
<blockquote>Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source</p>
<p>of legislation:</p>
<p>(a) <em><strong>No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.</strong></em>n turn&#8230;women will have little rights in terms of things like divorce or other related things.</p>
<p>Most of the things in the current constitution are rights that were present under Saddam.
</p></blockquote>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('112','dave &amp;#91;Visitor&amp;#93;'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('112','dave &amp;#91;Visitor&amp;#93;','I noticed that you left this out:&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Article (2): 1st - Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nof legislation:&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n(a) &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/em&gt;n turn...women will have little rights in terms of things like divorce or other related things.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nMost of the things in the current constitution are rights that were present under Saddam.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Honzo [Member]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honzo [Member]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under
Saddam! We now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic
law. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Show me where they are worse off under the new system.  That position does not fly if you read the &lt;a href="http://www.iraqigovernment.org/constitution_en.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;text of the new constitution&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.state.gov/g/wi/rls/18877.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Systematic and Random Rapes by the government&lt;/a&gt;?  That was under Saddam.  What will they &lt;a href="http://www.hundiejo.com/index.php/2005/08/25/look_iraqi_constitution" rel="nofollow"&gt;have under the new government&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Article (14): Iraqis are &lt;strong&gt;equal before the law&lt;/strong&gt; without discrimination because of &lt;strong&gt;gender&lt;/strong&gt;, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (20): Citizens, male &lt;strong&gt;and female&lt;/strong&gt;, have the right to participate in public matters and enjoy political rights, including the right to vote and run as candidates.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (35)....&lt;br&gt;
2nd _ The state is committed to protecting the individual from coercion
in thought, religion or politics, and no one may be imprisoned on these
bases.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (39): Iraqis are free in their adherence to their personal
status according to their own religion, sect, belief and choice, and
that will be organized by law.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (40):&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
1st _ The followers of every religion and sect are free in:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(a) the practice of their religious rites, including the (Shiite) Husseiniya Rites.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(b) the administration of religious endowments and their affairs and
their religious institutions, and this will be organized by law.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2nd _ The state guarantees freedom of worship and the protection of its places.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (41): Every individual has freedom of thought and conscience. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (29), &lt;br&gt;
Part 4:&lt;br&gt;
4th - Violence and abuse in the family, school and society shall be forbidden.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (30): 1st - The state guarantees social and health insurance,
the basics for a free and honourable life for the individual and the
family - especially children and &lt;strong&gt;women &lt;/strong&gt;-
and works to protect them from illiteracy, fear and poverty and
provides them with housing and the means to rehabilitate and take care
of them. This shall be regulated by law.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (34): &lt;br&gt;
1st - Education is a main factor for the progress of society and it is
a right guaranteed by the state. It is mandatory in the primary school
and the state guarantees fighting illiteracy. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2nd - Free education is a right for Iraqis in all its stages.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Article (35)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
3rd - Forced labour, slavery and the commerce in slaves is forbidden, as is the trading in women or children or the sex trade.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;
Where is the worseness?  I cannot see it.
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('111','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('111','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;','&#60;\/span&#62;&#60;i&#62;Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under\nSaddam! We now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic\nlaw. &#60;\/i&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nShow me where they are worse off under the new system.  That position does not fly if you read the &#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.iraqigovernment.org\/constitution_en.htm\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;text of the new constitution&#60;\/a&#62;.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.state.gov\/g\/wi\/rls\/18877.htm\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;Systematic and Random Rapes by the government&#60;\/a&#62;?  That was under Saddam.  What will they &#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.hundiejo.com\/index.php\/2005\/08\/25\/look_iraqi_constitution\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;have under the new government&#60;\/a&#62;?&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;blockquote&#62;Article (14): Iraqis are &#60;strong&#62;equal before the law&#60;\/strong&#62; without discrimination because of &#60;strong&#62;gender&#60;\/strong&#62;, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (20): Citizens, male &#60;strong&#62;and female&#60;\/strong&#62;, have the right to participate in public matters and enjoy political rights, including the right to vote and run as candidates.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (35)....&#60;br&#62;\n2nd _ The state is committed to protecting the individual from coercion\nin thought, religion or politics, and no one may be imprisoned on these\nbases.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (39): Iraqis are free in their adherence to their personal\nstatus according to their own religion, sect, belief and choice, and\nthat will be organized by law.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (40):&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n1st _ The followers of every religion and sect are free in:&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n(a) the practice of their religious rites, including the (Shiite) Husseiniya Rites.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n(b) the administration of religious endowments and their affairs and\ntheir religious institutions, and this will be organized by law.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n2nd _ The state guarantees freedom of worship and the protection of its places.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (41): Every individual has freedom of thought and conscience. &#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (29), &#60;br&#62;\nPart 4:&#60;br&#62;\n4th - Violence and abuse in the family, school and society shall be forbidden.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (30): 1st - The state guarantees social and health insurance,\nthe basics for a free and honourable life for the individual and the\nfamily - especially children and &#60;strong&#62;women &#60;\/strong&#62;-\nand works to protect them from illiteracy, fear and poverty and\nprovides them with housing and the means to rehabilitate and take care\nof them. This shall be regulated by law.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (34): &#60;br&#62;\n1st - Education is a main factor for the progress of society and it is\na right guaranteed by the state. It is mandatory in the primary school\nand the state guarantees fighting illiteracy. &#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n2nd - Free education is a right for Iraqis in all its stages.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nArticle (35)&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n3rd - Forced labour, slavery and the commerce in slaves is forbidden, as is the trading in women or children or the sex trade.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;\/blockquote&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;&#60;span&#62;\nWhere is the worseness?  I cannot see it.\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under<br />
Saddam! We now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic<br />
law. </i></p>
<p>Show me where they are worse off under the new system.  That position does not fly if you read the <a href="http://www.iraqigovernment.org/constitution_en.htm" rel="nofollow">text of the new constitution</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.state.gov/g/wi/rls/18877.htm" rel="nofollow">Systematic and Random Rapes by the government</a>?  That was under Saddam.  What will they <a href="http://www.hundiejo.com/index.php/2005/08/25/look_iraqi_constitution" rel="nofollow">have under the new government</a>?</p>
<blockquote><p>Article (14): Iraqis are <strong>equal before the law</strong> without discrimination because of <strong>gender</strong>, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.</p>
<p>Article (20): Citizens, male <strong>and female</strong>, have the right to participate in public matters and enjoy political rights, including the right to vote and run as candidates.</p>
<p>Article (35)&#8230;.<br />
2nd _ The state is committed to protecting the individual from coercion<br />
in thought, religion or politics, and no one may be imprisoned on these<br />
bases.</p>
<p>Article (39): Iraqis are free in their adherence to their personal<br />
status according to their own religion, sect, belief and choice, and<br />
that will be organized by law.</p>
<p>Article (40):</p>
<p>1st _ The followers of every religion and sect are free in:</p>
<p>(a) the practice of their religious rites, including the (Shiite) Husseiniya Rites.</p>
<p>(b) the administration of religious endowments and their affairs and<br />
their religious institutions, and this will be organized by law.</p>
<p>2nd _ The state guarantees freedom of worship and the protection of its places.</p>
<p>Article (41): Every individual has freedom of thought and conscience. </p>
<p>Article (29), <br />
Part 4:<br />
4th - Violence and abuse in the family, school and society shall be forbidden.</p>
<p>Article (30): 1st - The state guarantees social and health insurance,<br />
the basics for a free and honourable life for the individual and the<br />
family - especially children and <strong>women </strong>-<br />
and works to protect them from illiteracy, fear and poverty and<br />
provides them with housing and the means to rehabilitate and take care<br />
of them. This shall be regulated by law.</p>
<p>Article (34): <br />
1st - Education is a main factor for the progress of society and it is<br />
a right guaranteed by the state. It is mandatory in the primary school<br />
and the state guarantees fighting illiteracy. </p>
<p>2nd - Free education is a right for Iraqis in all its stages.</p>
<p>Article (35)</p>
<p>3rd - Forced labour, slavery and the commerce in slaves is forbidden, as is the trading in women or children or the sex trade.</p>
<p>
</p></blockquote>
<p><span><br />
Where is the worseness?  I cannot see it.</p>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('111','Honzo &amp;#91;Member&amp;#93;'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('111','Honzo &amp;#91;Member&amp;#93;','&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under\nSaddam! We now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic\nlaw. &lt;\/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nShow me where they are worse off under the new system.  That position does not fly if you read the &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.iraqigovernment.org\/constitution_en.htm\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;text of the new constitution&lt;\/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.state.gov\/g\/wi\/rls\/18877.htm\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Systematic and Random Rapes by the government&lt;\/a&gt;?  That was under Saddam.  What will they &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.hundiejo.com\/index.php\/2005\/08\/25\/look_iraqi_constitution\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;have under the new government&lt;\/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;blockquote&gt;Article (14): Iraqis are &lt;strong&gt;equal before the law&lt;\/strong&gt; without discrimination because of &lt;strong&gt;gender&lt;\/strong&gt;, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (20): Citizens, male &lt;strong&gt;and female&lt;\/strong&gt;, have the right to participate in public matters and enjoy political rights, including the right to vote and run as candidates.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (35)....&lt;br&gt;\n2nd _ The state is committed to protecting the individual from coercion\nin thought, religion or politics, and no one may be imprisoned on these\nbases.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (39): Iraqis are free in their adherence to their personal\nstatus according to their own religion, sect, belief and choice, and\nthat will be organized by law.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (40):&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n1st _ The followers of every religion and sect are free in:&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n(a) the practice of their religious rites, including the (Shiite) Husseiniya Rites.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n(b) the administration of religious endowments and their affairs and\ntheir religious institutions, and this will be organized by law.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n2nd _ The state guarantees freedom of worship and the protection of its places.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (41): Every individual has freedom of thought and conscience. &lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (29), &lt;br&gt;\nPart 4:&lt;br&gt;\n4th - Violence and abuse in the family, school and society shall be forbidden.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (30): 1st - The state guarantees social and health insurance,\nthe basics for a free and honourable life for the individual and the\nfamily - especially children and &lt;strong&gt;women &lt;\/strong&gt;-\nand works to protect them from illiteracy, fear and poverty and\nprovides them with housing and the means to rehabilitate and take care\nof them. This shall be regulated by law.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (34): &lt;br&gt;\n1st - Education is a main factor for the progress of society and it is\na right guaranteed by the state. It is mandatory in the primary school\nand the state guarantees fighting illiteracy. &lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n2nd - Free education is a right for Iraqis in all its stages.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nArticle (35)&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n3rd - Forced labour, slavery and the commerce in slaves is forbidden, as is the trading in women or children or the sex trade.&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;\nWhere is the worseness?  I cannot see it.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: dave [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...as I have mentioned before, I am not convinced that the constitution is that great of a thing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under Saddam! We
now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic law. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;
As for this? Saddam was not a threat to the world. Why would we think
he would be a threat to the world today if he sure was not two years
ago?
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('110','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('110','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;','Well...as I have mentioned before, I am not convinced that the constitution is that great of a thing. &#60;\/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nWomen in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under Saddam! We\nnow have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic law. &#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;i&#62;Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&#60;\/i&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;&#60;span&#62;\nAs for this? Saddam was not a threat to the world. Why would we think\nhe would be a threat to the world today if he sure was not two years\nago?\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;as I have mentioned before, I am not convinced that the constitution is that great of a thing. </p>
<p>Women in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under Saddam! We<br />
now have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic law. </p>
<p><i>Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.</i></p>
<p><span><br />
As for this? Saddam was not a threat to the world. Why would we think<br />
he would be a threat to the world today if he sure was not two years<br />
ago?</p>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('110','dave &amp;#91;Visitor&amp;#93;'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('110','dave &amp;#91;Visitor&amp;#93;','Well...as I have mentioned before, I am not convinced that the constitution is that great of a thing. &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nWomen in Iraq today have less freedom than they did under Saddam! We\nnow have a theocracy, were no law can contradict Islamic law. &lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;i&gt;Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&lt;\/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;\nAs for this? Saddam was not a threat to the world. Why would we think\nhe would be a threat to the world today if he sure was not two years\nago?\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Honzo [Member]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honzo [Member]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not, but Saddam would be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
While &lt;blockquote&gt;"&lt;em&gt;Also...the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there. You cannot ignore that factor.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;
is true, similarly you cannot ignore &lt;a href="http://fpffressminds.blogspot.com/2005/10/new-beginning-for-iraq.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;the following&lt;/a&gt; either, if you are being honest:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Certainly, President Bush made some mistakes in making his
case for war with Iraq and has made a number of strategic errors
conducting this war. If the president should be blamed for the deaths
of over 2,000 soldiers and injuring many more, he also deserves credit
for giving Iraq a chance to write a constitution by her people. Make no
mistake about it, if not for George W. Bush there would be no Iraqi
Constitution and Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region
and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;
You can't have it both ways.
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('109','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('109','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;','I am not, but Saddam would be.&#60;\/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nWhile &#60;blockquote&#62;\&#34;&#60;em&#62;Also...the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there. You cannot ignore that factor.&#60;\/em&#62; &#60;\/blockquote&#62;&#60;br&#62;\nis true, similarly you cannot ignore &#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/fpffressminds.blogspot.com\/2005\/10\/new-beginning-for-iraq.html\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;the following&#60;\/a&#62; either, if you are being honest:&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;blockquote&#62;Certainly, President Bush made some mistakes in making his\ncase for war with Iraq and has made a number of strategic errors\nconducting this war. If the president should be blamed for the deaths\nof over 2,000 soldiers and injuring many more, he also deserves credit\nfor giving Iraq a chance to write a constitution by her people. Make no\nmistake about it, if not for George W. Bush there would be no Iraqi\nConstitution and Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region\nand indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&#60;\/blockquote&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;&#60;span&#62;\nYou can\'t have it both ways.\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not, but Saddam would be.</p>
<p>While<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;<em>Also&#8230;the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there. You cannot ignore that factor.</em> </p></blockquote>
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is true, similarly you cannot ignore <a href="http://fpffressminds.blogspot.com/2005/10/new-beginning-for-iraq.html" rel="nofollow">the following</a> either, if you are being honest:</p>
<blockquote><p>Certainly, President Bush made some mistakes in making his<br />
case for war with Iraq and has made a number of strategic errors<br />
conducting this war. If the president should be blamed for the deaths<br />
of over 2,000 soldiers and injuring many more, he also deserves credit<br />
for giving Iraq a chance to write a constitution by her people. Make no<br />
mistake about it, if not for George W. Bush there would be no Iraqi<br />
Constitution and Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region<br />
and indeed the world. This is not even arguable.</p></blockquote>
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You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('109','Honzo &amp;#91;Member&amp;#93;'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('109','Honzo &amp;#91;Member&amp;#93;','I am not, but Saddam would be.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;\nWhile &lt;blockquote&gt;\&quot;&lt;em&gt;Also...the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there. You cannot ignore that factor.&lt;\/em&gt; &lt;\/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;\nis true, similarly you cannot ignore &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/fpffressminds.blogspot.com\/2005\/10\/new-beginning-for-iraq.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the following&lt;\/a&gt; either, if you are being honest:&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;blockquote&gt;Certainly, President Bush made some mistakes in making his\ncase for war with Iraq and has made a number of strategic errors\nconducting this war. If the president should be blamed for the deaths\nof over 2,000 soldiers and injuring many more, he also deserves credit\nfor giving Iraq a chance to write a constitution by her people. Make no\nmistake about it, if not for George W. Bush there would be no Iraqi\nConstitution and Saddam Hussein would still be a threat in the region\nand indeed the world. This is not even arguable.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;\nYou can\'t have it both ways.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: dave [Visitor]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also...the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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You cannot ignore that factor.
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('108','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('108','dave &#38;#91;Visitor&#38;#93;','Also...the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there.&#60;\/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;&#60;span&#62;\nYou cannot ignore that factor.\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230;the insurgents are not killing anyone if we are not there.</p>
<p><span><br />
You cannot ignore that factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Honzo [Member]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honzo [Member]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9,000 accidents does not justify anything.  But perhaps the 26,000 murders does.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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This is all beside the fact that the &lt;a href="http://www.hundiejo.com/index.php/2005/07/20/the_iraqi_war_saved_lives" rel="nofollow"&gt;numbers of lives lost annually has gone&lt;/a&gt; down since the invasion compared to Saddam's reign as a whole.&lt;br&gt;
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Now we learn that 74% of the casualties are not from us, but from
outside Terrorist Forces, that put the perspective on the issue.
&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('107','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('107','Honzo &#38;#91;Member&#38;#93;','9,000 accidents does not justify anything.  But perhaps the 26,000 murders does.&#60;\/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;\nThis is all beside the fact that the &#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.hundiejo.com\/index.php\/2005\/07\/20\/the_iraqi_war_saved_lives\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62;numbers of lives lost annually has gone&#60;\/a&#62; down since the invasion compared to Saddam\'s reign as a whole.&#60;br&#62;\n&#60;br&#62;&#60;span&#62;\nNow we learn that 74% of the casualties are not from us, but from\noutside Terrorist Forces, that put the perspective on the issue.\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9,000 accidents does not justify anything.  But perhaps the 26,000 murders does.</p>
<p>This is all beside the fact that the <a href="http://www.hundiejo.com/index.php/2005/07/20/the_iraqi_war_saved_lives" rel="nofollow">numbers of lives lost annually has gone</a> down since the invasion compared to Saddam&#8217;s reign as a whole.</p>
<p><span><br />
Now we learn that 74% of the casualties are not from us, but from<br />
outside Terrorist Forces, that put the perspective on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle [Visitor]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle [Visitor]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that the insurgents are more wrong than us doesn't make us right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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9000 is 9000 too many.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that the insurgents are more wrong than us doesn&#8217;t make us right.</p>
<p><span><br />
9000 is 9000 too many.</p>
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