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Henry Imler May 3rd, 2006
When I first heard of Wang Wenyi and her stunt with President Hu and
President Bush, I wrote it off as just that, a stunt. Then I came
across the follwing article from the Weekly Standard, Why Wang Wenyi Was Shouting. My jaw dropped and my stomach turned.
Here is more, but keep in mind the difficulties of the story from
the WS article and that the Epoch Times is a Falun Gong ran paper. Essential Information on Organ Harvesting from Falun Gong Practitioners in China
Update: Commenter Bobby Fletcher directs us to the following from the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State: U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alleged Concentration Camp in China. However, the Weekly Standard article addresses what the US report found here (click on read more)
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FYI Dr. Wang is the lead researcher for Epoch Times NY’s conveniently
timed “Sujiatun Auschwitz” allegation that has since being discredited:
link.
Given Dr. Wang’s profession as a pathologist, and New York’s recent
string of grisly illegal cadaver organ harvesting cases, it’s not hard
to see how she put two and two together and rehashed the 1970’s era
anti-communist tall tale of people sentenced to vivisection.
I could not get the link to work. This is the closest that I have come to:April 2006 Archives. I could not find anything there.
Ok. You link works. The WS article acknowledges those claims and offers some thoughtful thinking on them:
If Big Red does not want you to know about something, they usually succeed.
I honestly do not know the truth. The possibility of the truth is scary.
Come on, you guys. Our government’s investigations started 2nd week of March and ended with the 3/21 consular visit.
Epoch’s “Auschwitz” had 5 days at most, to vanish into thin air
undetected: thousands including doctors nurses, guards, equipment,
supply, facility…
What Epoch claims is science fiction.
So they are making up the phone interviews? I’ll agree that this is a
shaky story, but if there is a chance that it is true, it is
horrifying.
I am sorry, but I don’t trust big red as much as you.
By the way, I looked at you blogger profile. You seem to be a bit biased. I’d like to know more about you.
Henry, the phone call stuff reminds me of The Jerky Boys.
I would urge you to temper “chance that it is true” with “innocent until proven guilty”.
I’d be galad to talk off-line; email me. I don’t want to take up your blog space with OT stuff.
1. The National Kidney Foundation has serious concerns with China’s
conduct regarding unethical organ transplants and organ theft as in the
case of Falun Gong members in China.
http://www.kidney.org/news/newsroom/newsitem.cfm?id=336
The National Kidney Foundation (NKF) is deeply concerned about recent
allegations regarding the procurement of organs and tissues through
coercive or exploitative practices abroad, or practices which violate
worldwide human rights standards.
The “Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Practitioners
in China”, from Canadian human rights attorney David Matas and former
Canadian Minister of State David Kilgour, alleges that large numbers of
Falun Gong* practitioners in China are being imprisoned and executed
for the purposes of organ or tissue donation.
If these allegations prove true, they represent a systematic and
widespread violation of human rights against thousands, or potentially
tens of thousands, of innocent persons.
The National Kidney Foundation is opposed to any persecution of
individuals because of their religious or political beliefs. The NKF
also remains committed to the principles of informed consent and free
choice with regard to the decision about whether to be an organ or
tissue donor.
In addition, any act which calls the ethical practice of donation and
transplantation into question should be condemned by the worldwide
transplantation community, which seeks to extend and improve the lives
of those waiting for a transplant through responsible and ethical
means. ”
Only a handful of pro-commies disagree with the report. The K-M report says:
http://investigation.go.saveinter.net
“We have concluded that the government of China and its agencies in
numerous parts of the Country, in particular hospitals but also
detention centers and ‘people’s courts’, since 1999 have put to death a
large but unknown number of Falun Gong prisoners of conscience. Their
vital organs, including hearts, kidneys, livers and corneas, were
virtually simultaneously seized involuntarily for sale at high prices,
sometimes to foreigners, who normally face long waits for voluntary
donations of such organs in their home countries.
It appears to us that many human beings belonging to a peaceful
voluntary organization made illegal seven years ago by President Jiang
because he thought it might threaten the dominance of the Communist
Party of China have been in effect executed by medical practitioners
for their organs.”
Our conclusion comes not from any one single item of evidence, but
rather the piecing together of all the evidence we have considered.
Each portion of the evidence we have considered is, in itself,
verifiable and, in most cases, incontestable. Put together, they paint
a damning whole picture. It is their combination that has convinced us.”
http://www.faluninfo.net/displayAnArticle.asp?ID=9452
Hey guys,
I thought you might be interested in reading this piece about Bobby
Fletcher/Charles Liu who’s commented on your blog. He’s been all over
the blogosphere discrediting the organ harvesting report. Have a look.
Western Standard (Alberta): Sowing Confusion; Embarrassed by reports of
live organ harvesting, China’s sympathizers launch a high-tech
disinformation campaign
http://organharvestinvestigation.net/media/WesternStandard_040907.htm
April 9, 2007 Monday
Final Edition
HEADLINE: Sowing Confusion; Embarrassed by reports of live organ harvesting,
China’s sympathizers launch a high-tech disinformation campaign
BYLINE: Kevin Steel, Western Standard
He posts his messages everywhere under several different names on
Internet blogs and discussion groups. He writes letters to the editor
anywhere and sends e-mails to anyone–anyone who might take seriously
shocking evidence that the Chinese government “harvests” and sells live
organs from political prisoners. His main message is that the Falun
Gong–the group which first brought evidence of live organ harvesting
to light–and the Epoch Times newspaper that broke that story are
spreading propaganda against China’s Communist government. And he’s not
even Chinese. He is Charles Liu, a 40-year-old Taiwanese-born
technology consultant who lives in Issaquah, Wash., and does business
in China.
Liu has been so active and so pro-Beijing in his writings that some
Falun Gong supporters–in particular Epoch Times reporter Jana
Shearer–have accused him of being an agent for the Chinese government,
waging a disinformation campaign against them, trying to confuse
people, and deliberately wasting everyone’s time.
It’s a charge that upsets Liu, who dismisses it as “a bunch of kooky
friends making unfounded accusations. It’s just a bunch of blog BS.” As
for why he devotes so much energy to attacking the Falun Gong and the
organ harvesting allegations, he says, “My position is that I simply
don’t agree with their brand of politics, because I observed their
politics turning from anti-Communist party, to anti-China, . . . and
recently it’s morphed into this anti-Chinese hysteria and that’s going
to be hurting people,” he says. As an Asian-American, he says he
decided to speak up.
He doesn’t really explain, when asked, why he started a blog last year
called “The Myth of Tiananmen Square Massacre” under the name of Bobby
Fletcher (one of his online aliases, which he also uses to comment on
the Western Standard’s online blog). On that blog, he pushes the
minimal 250 casualty figure that the Chinese government has always
maintained died that night in 1989 (more reliable estimates put the
figure at at least ten times that).
Liu’s actions mirror disinformation campaigns waged by the Chinese
government in the past. Typically, these include the deliberate
spreading of false or misleading facts to sow confusion or doubt among
the conflicting accounts. The classic example is the Tiananmen Square
massacre; the Chinese government has maintained that no one died in the
square itself, that there was only pushing and shoving on the streets
around the square, resulting in a few military casualties. Overseas,
the CCP relies on its United Front Work department, part of the Chinese
intelligence service, to propagate its message. During the Cold War,
the Soviets employed many overseas flunkies through their
Disinformation Department.
Former Canadian MP David Kilgour, who co-authored a report on China’s
macabre organ harvesting industry, has received many propaganda e-mails
from Liu. For instance, Liu has written repeatedly that a U.S.
congressional committee looked into the organ harvesting allegations
and found nothing.
“[David] Matas and I gave evidence to that subcommittee and got support
from both the Republican chairman and the Democratic vice-chair,” says
Kilgour. “I just came to the conclusion he was trying to waste my time,
and I have other things to do.”
Winnipeg-based human rights lawyer, and Kilgour’s co-author, David
Matas, really doesn’t know what to make of Liu. “I don’t know who he
is, but what he does is spend a lot of time replicating nonsense to
defend the Chinese government,” Matas says.
The only concern Matas has is that Liu seems to know who he and Kilgour
met with in the United States to discuss their report. Matas discovered
Liu had sent e-mails to politicians–and their staff–prior to the
meetings. “The only people who would have that information would
potentially be the Chinese government. I can’t imagine how Liu would
know we were meeting with those people,” Matas says. “We’re not
super-secretive, but you can’t find information on the Internet or in
any public place about who we’re meeting with, where and when.” He
himself has received at least 10 e-mails from Liu, all of which he’s
ignored. Maybe Matas is onto something with that approach.
GRAPHIC:
Colour Photo: CP, Dave Cahn; David Kilgour (left) and David Matas,
co-authors of a report on China’s organ harvesting industry: How does
Liu know who they’re meeting with?
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