Comments on: Victory for the Value of Life http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:12:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Honzo [Member] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-989 Honzo [Member] Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:25:34 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-989 How are the two morally different? It boils down to who is making the choice. The fetus has no control in the situation. It is being killed and robbed of all possible future choices. The adult that chooses to end its life (although there are many types of euthanasia - the biggest being active vs passive) has control in the matter making is completely morally different. There is also the issue of euthanasia vs. assisted suicide. </span><br> <br><span> From a legislation standpoint, I think it should be legal - your life, your choice. From a moral standpoint, I have always maintained that it is a different matter. I think that passive euthanasia is moral (letting nature run its course) and that usually active euthanasia and suicide is immoral. The key is that it should still be allowed under our laws. ----- Oh yeah, the second part of the question. The source of all value is from God. I am not sure about the rights part. It really depends on how you frame the question. Within any society there is an implicit and or explicit agreements where rights and obligations are setup. So, from that standpoint the government documents give rise to rights </span><em>within the society</em>. It is like agreeing beforehand on what Halo game type we are going to play.<br> <br> Now, I will also hold to a universal set of rights that I think stem from outworking of the values the God has set up. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('989','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('989','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;','How are the two morally different? It boils down to who is making the\nchoice. The fetus has no control in the situation. It is being killed\nand robbed of all possible future choices. The adult that chooses to\nend its life (although there are many types of euthanasia - the biggest\nbeing active vs passive) has control in the matter making is completely\nmorally different. There is also the issue of euthanasia vs. assisted\nsuicide. <\/span><br>\n<br><span>\nFrom a legislation standpoint, I think it should be legal - your life,\nyour choice. From a moral standpoint, I have always maintained that it\nis a different matter. I think that passive euthanasia is moral\n(letting nature run its course) and that usually active euthanasia and\nsuicide is immoral. The key is that it should still be allowed under\nour laws. -----\nOh yeah, the second part of the question. The source of all value is\nfrom God. I am not sure about the rights part. It really depends on how\nyou frame the question. Within any society there is an implicit and or\nexplicit agreements where rights and obligations are setup. So, from\nthat standpoint the government documents give rise to rights <\/span><em>within the society<\/em>. It is like agreeing beforehand on what Halo game type we are going to play.<br>\n<br>\nNow, I will also hold to a universal set of rights that I think stem from outworking of the values the God has set up.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How are the two morally different? It boils down to who is making the
choice. The fetus has no control in the situation. It is being killed
and robbed of all possible future choices. The adult that chooses to
end its life (although there are many types of euthanasia - the biggest
being active vs passive) has control in the matter making is completely
morally different. There is also the issue of euthanasia vs. assisted
suicide.


From a legislation standpoint, I think it should be legal - your life,
your choice. From a moral standpoint, I have always maintained that it
is a different matter. I think that passive euthanasia is moral
(letting nature run its course) and that usually active euthanasia and
suicide is immoral. The key is that it should still be allowed under
our laws. —–
Oh yeah, the second part of the question. The source of all value is
from God. I am not sure about the rights part. It really depends on how
you frame the question. Within any society there is an implicit and or
explicit agreements where rights and obligations are setup. So, from
that standpoint the government documents give rise to rights within the society. It is like agreeing beforehand on what Halo game type we are going to play.

Now, I will also hold to a universal set of rights that I think stem from outworking of the values the God has set up.

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]]> By: Henry Thomas [Visitor] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-988 Henry Thomas [Visitor] Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:23:25 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-988 How is euthanasia morally different from abortion?</span><br> <br> Also, was it the Declaration of Independence that declares God gave us the "right" to life or was it Scripture?<br> <br><span> Just some questions I have been thinking over. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('988','Henry Thomas &#91;Visitor&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('988','Henry Thomas &#91;Visitor&#93;','How is euthanasia morally different from abortion?<\/span><br>\n<br>\nAlso, was it the Declaration of Independence that declares God gave us the \"right\" to life or was it Scripture?<br>\n<br><span>\nJust some questions I have been thinking over.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How is euthanasia morally different from abortion?

Also, was it the Declaration of Independence that declares God gave us the “right” to life or was it Scripture?


Just some questions I have been thinking over.

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]]> By: Honzo [Member] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-987 Honzo [Member] Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:58:06 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-987 Not going to deny that discussions with you and Kyle and Danny have moved me change my positions. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('987','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('987','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;','Not going to deny that discussions with you and Kyle and Danny have moved me change my positions.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Not going to deny that discussions with you and Kyle and Danny have moved me change my positions.

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]]> By: dave [Visitor] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-986 dave [Visitor] Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:22:51 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-986 woo hoo!!!!!</span><br> <br><span> my work is paying off!!! :) <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('986','dave &#91;Visitor&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('986','dave &#91;Visitor&#93;','woo hoo!!!!!<\/span><br>\n<br><span>\nmy work is paying off!!! :)\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> woo hoo!!!!!


my work is paying off!!! :)

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]]> By: Honzo [Member] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-985 Honzo [Member] Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:00:33 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-985 If not, I am darn close. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('985','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('985','Honzo &#91;Member&#93;','If not, I am darn close.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If not, I am darn close.

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]]> By: dave [Visitor] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-984 dave [Visitor] Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:59:04 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-984 Is Henry now officially against the death penalty? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('984','dave &#91;Visitor&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('984','dave &#91;Visitor&#93;','Is Henry now officially against the death penalty?\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Is Henry now officially against the death penalty?

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]]> By: Psycheout [Visitor] http://www.hundiejo.com/victory-for-the-value-of-life#comment-983 Psycheout [Visitor] Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:46:02 +0000 http://www.hundiejo.com/wannamove/?p=909#comment-983 This is a great day for the pro-life movement. We have Senator Sam Brownback to thank for rejecting the Miers nomination and getting Justice Alito on the court. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('983','Psycheout &#91;Visitor&#93;'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('983','Psycheout &#91;Visitor&#93;','This is a great day for the pro-life movement. We have Senator Sam\nBrownback to thank for rejecting the Miers nomination and getting\nJustice Alito on the court.\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is a great day for the pro-life movement. We have Senator Sam
Brownback to thank for rejecting the Miers nomination and getting
Justice Alito on the court.

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