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Henry Imler October 4th, 2006

Absolutely great interview by Glenn Beck with Lou Dobbs. Here is a sampling:

BECK: Was Carroll Quigley right on the
shadow government, on the companies taking over and really controlling
everything? Because it`s really the only thing that I can put my finger
on to say, “Why aren`t we doing anything about illegal immigration?”
We`re run by companies now, aren`t we?

DOBBS: Well, both political parties are run by
the very same people, corporate America, $2.4 billion in lobbying each
year. No other special interest comes that close.

The power of corporate America — and I`m talking about big
business. I`m not talking about small business. There`s even a fiction
in this country now that small business, medium-size business, and
corporate America are all the same. They`re not.

Corporate America is working against the interest of the medium- and
small-size businesses, are working against the middle class, destroying
jobs, not creating them. Small business continues to create jobs in
this country, more than 80 percent of them. But the truth is that
corporate America is dominating our legislative and our electoral
system.

BECK: Wouldn`t you go further than that? It`s not
just corporate America. I mean, it`s global corporations. I think we`re
being turned into MexAmeriCanada.

DOBBS: Well, there are some obviously who would
like to do that through the North American Union. And I think the Bush
administration should be held to account for what they`ve tried to do
with the so-called Security and Prosperity Partnership. It`s absolutely
disgusting, by any standard, what these elites have tried to do in this
country.

And, frankly, I can`t wait. We`ve been examining this problem for
some time, this story, this issue. I find these people so repugnant I
can`t even express my disgust on a family broadcast like yours.

BECK: But I have to tell you, you know, you say
this, and the way I hear you phrase that right now, it`s the Bush
administration. And I feel the same way. I`m a conservative. I voted
for Bush. I can`t even begin to explain what they`re doing. But it`s –
you know, I feel as if…

DOBBS: By the way, they can`t either.

BECK: I know they can`t. The Democrats and the
Republicans are taking us to the same frickin` destination. One`s just
taking us in a train, and the other is taking us in a plane.

DOBBS: Well, it`s about time people woke up to one
thing, though: They`re taking us. But the fact that we`re rolling over
and allowing people to claim they`re Democrats and claim they`re
Republicans, and not a single — you just described yourself as a
conservative.

BECK: Right.

DOBBS: What the heck does that mean? The difference between a conservative and a liberal today, a Democrat and a Republican?

BECK: There`s a difference between a liberal and conservative, not Republican…

DOBBS: Let me tell you. You may in your mind have a
fixed understanding of that. But as a political force and any way in
which to express your political will, it means nothing.

BECK: Yes, you`re exactly right. You are exactly right.

DOBBS: Because if this country does not awaken to
what we`re doing to our middle class and the fact that traditional
American values — independence, equality, self-reliance, the common
good, the national interest — are the values that we all should be
working toward, whatever label you want to aside in partisanship, fine.
But those are the values we`ve got to turn to, and we`ve got to become
an aspirational society again.

BECK: What is going to finally wake us up?

DOBBS: Leadership. Leadership.

BECK: Where are they?

DOBBS: Well, I`ll tell you what: They`re out there.
The fact is there`s so much noise and silliness over all of these wedge
issues — gay marriage, gun control, abortion, whether we have “under
God” in the pledge of allegiance. For God`s sake, it`s America. If you
want to say “under God,” say “under God.” If you don`t, don`t. It`s
individual liberty, individual responsibility.

Why do we even allow the airwaves, the national dialogue to be polluted with this nonsense?

BECK: I`d just ask you though: Where are the leaders? I don`t see them.